Wednesday, March 03, 2010

Praying for CFTF, Day 4

Patient Father who commands all to repent, not desiring that any of us should perish, may honor and glory be Yours forever and ever.

Today I lift the final speakers in the Contending for the Faith lectures to Your throne for Your touch in their lives and Your presence in their words: John Rose, Jimmy Gribble, Lee Moses, Gary Summers, Jess Whitlock, Dub McClish and Gary Summers. May Your Spirit inspire each one who will be His host; may Your word and Yours only be spoken; may the truth be spoken in love not just by these men but also by all those who seek to speak on Your behalf.

When such events occur in the future, may all participants be faithful in contacting in advance those whose works they doubt or oppose, in the Spirit of Matthew 18:15-17 and 5:23-24, to discuss with them any possible misunderstandings within or without the text.

I pray this in the name of Jesus, the Christ, Son of God:

Amen.

2 comments:

laymond said...

Keith, over on Jay's blog you commented,

Keith Brenton, on March 5, 2010 at 11:54 am Said:

One of the CFTF speakers – I’ve already managed to forget which – felt Phil Sanders was as wrong as the “apostate” author he was reviewing because he said Sanders advocates for the indwelling and direct operation of the Holy Spirit today – not the Holy Spirit solely through the Word.

Keith can you tell me what the stated purpose of the Comforter/ Holy Ghost was as stated in scripture. and tell me just how many preachers you know who depend on and trust in the stated purpose when they take the podium to preach.
Lk:12:11: And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
12: For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
Jn:14:26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

How many preachers, indwelled preachers, do you see ascend the steps without their bible or a teleprompter or PowerPoint, has the Comforter changed into a teleprompter?

Keith Brenton said...

laymond, I don't think I can encapsulate all the purposes that the Holy Spirit pursues in scripture, but to the specific one you mention, I'd respond that I've only seen a handful of gospel ministers who did not rely on memory aids when speaking.

But I'd also so that doesn't preclude the others from being Spirit-led. Nor does it preclude people with good memory, training and rehearsal from presenting without benefit of the Holy Spirit at all!

I would have to say that Jesus' words in Luke 12 seem (to me) specific about testifying before synagogue leaders, magistrates and powers (or "rulers and authorities" in the NIV - see also Mark 13:11). The John 14 references seems more general, more inclusive of other circumstances.

My suspicion is that most preachers today don't think to ask for the Holy Spirit (Luke 11:13. At the same time, 1 Corinthians 12:3 reveals that "... no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit."

So it isn't necessarily that the Holy Spirit will give you photographic recall to help you remember all the things you want to say in a pulpit or when on trial before a ruler or when speaking with someone else ... but He will help you remember what God wants you to say. That's how I see it.